Flaggy Creek

“Flaggy Creek” seems to have been quite a common name for a waterway. In the Newcastle area there is a Flaggy Creek near Glenrock, and there were at least two waterways in the Wallsend area previously known as Flaggy Creek, which have different names today.

1. Flaggy Creek- Whitebridge/Kahibah

The name “Flaggy Creek” is most commonly associated with the waterway that runs down into Glenrock Lagoon in Whitebridge.

Flaggy Creek is the waterway that runs into Glenrock Lagoon

The Waratah Coal Company sunk a shaft in the Flaggy Creek area in 1886. The shaft is marked on some old Kahibah parish maps.

“Flaggy Creek Shaft” marked on an old Kahibah parish map. Historical Land Records Viewer

The approximate location of this shaft is shown below.

2. Flaggy Creek – Barnsley

In the 19th century there was another Flaggy Creek, which was often referred to as being in the Wallsend district. An item from the Wallsend correspondent of the Newcastle Chronicle on 30 May 1868 refers to an accident happening to a man “at Flaggy Creek.” A land title from 1865 shows that Flaggy Ck was an alternative name for Slatey Ck in the Barnsley area.

Map from Vol-Fol-18-199 showing “Flaggy or Slatey Ck” in the Barnsley area.

By 1881 the “Slatey Ck” name seems to disappear and the “Flaggy Ck” name is used. For example a subdivision map for “Highgate near Wallsend”, shows the waterway to the west of the subdivision is named Flaggy Creek.

Flaggy Creek shown on the 1881 Highgate subdivision map. State Library of NSW.

An 1888 article refers to Flaggy Creek at Young Wallsend, which was the original name of Edgeworth.

We have been favoured with some magnificent oranges grown by Mr. William Johnson, Flaggy Creek, Young Wallsend.

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners’ Advocate, 6 October 1888.
Flaggy or Slatey Ck in 1902. University of Newcastle, Living Histories.

3. Flaggy Creek – Elermore Vale

The creek that runs through Croudace Road at Elermore Vale at a place formerly called Chinaman’s Flat, was at one time called Flaggy Creek.

Edward James Howard, complainant, deposed that he resided at Chinaman Flat or Flaggy Creek.

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners’ Advocate, 17 December 1887.

The creek is now the upper reaches of Ironbark Creek.

Ironbark Creek in Elermore was formerly known as Flaggy Creek.

Spot the difference

Where newspaper articles refer to a Flaggy Creek in the Wallsend district, it can be difficult to determine which creek is meant. Two pieces of information assist in this regard. Firstly, the Flaggy Creek at Elermore Vale was entirely within the borders of Wallsend Municipal Council, whereas Barnsley’s Flaggy Creek was about 3 miles to the west. Therefore a mention of Flaggy Creek in reference to Wallsend Council matters is almost certainly the Elermore Vale area. Secondly, the road to Cooranbong passed over Flaggy Creek at Barnsley, so a mention of the road to Cooranbong would indicate the Barnsley area creek.

The two Flaggy Creeks marked with red circles. Two key distinguishing features: the western one intersected with the road to Cooranbong (yellow line) , the eastern one was within Wallsend Council (shaded green).

Using these differentiators, the first unambiguous reference to the Flaggy Creek in the Barnsley area comes in 1870 …

I reached Lake Macquarie by way of Cockle Creek, the head of which is about three miles distant from the colliery township of Wallsend. Having walked from Wallsend to the creek, I was conveyed thence to the residence of Mr. Chapman, on Stony Creek (another small stream, emptying itself into the lake), in a boat belonging to that gentleman and his partner, Mr Lyster. But for this convenience I should have been compelled to ride from Wallsend on horseback, passing through the parish of Teralba, on the Coorambung-road, and proceeding thence over “Flaggy Creek,” “Cocked-hat Creek,” “Sandy Creek,” and sundry other streamlets more remarkable for their “curious nomenclature than for anything else.

Australian Town and Country Journal, 11 June 1870.

This page is part of the collection of Newcastle’s Obsolete Place Names.

Bramcote

Bramcote was the original name of a subdivision in Barnsley to the west of Slatey Creek.

Plan lodgement entry for DP1145, “Bramcote”, parish of Teralba, being a subdivision of Lot 1 of DP774. Historical Land Records Viewer

The Bramcote township was advertised from 8 July 1882 through to 19 August 1882, when an auction was to be held. Rain delayed the auction until 2 September 1882.

Advertisement for sale of land at “Bramcote”. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners’ Advocate, 19 August 1882.

The advertisement spruiks the transport amenity of Bramcote, having frontages to the Cooranbong and Wallsend roads and being at the junction of the Minmi road.

Map from Land Title associated with DP774, showing the area west of Flaggy Creek where the Bramcote subdivision was located. Vol-Fol 570-229.

The advertisement also states that Bramcote is close to “the deep waters of Cockle Creek” which is “navigable for steamers.” Measurement in Google Earth shows that Bramcote would have been about half a mile from Cockle Creek.

The neighbouring subdivisions of Bramcote and Highgate, separated by Slatey (Flaggy) Creek.

The third transport feature spruiked in the advertisement was that Bramcote “is within four hundred yards of the proposed Railway Connecting Waratah with Sydney.” This claim was a highly questionable one to make at this time. A number of trial surveys of different routes and various deviations for the Sydney to Newcastle railway had been made in 1879 and 1880. An 1881 map for the neighbouring Highgate subdivision shows a railway route beside Cockle Creek. However even by early 1881 it appears that the Government had settled on a more easterly route that came through the Tickhole tunnel, Cardiff and then Teralba. This led to much dissatisfaction from some, who wanted the rail line to pass through the mining townships of Lambton and Wallsend. A municipal conference was held in April 1881 to agitate for their preferred route. Despite the protestations, the Government decided on the final (current) route in May 1883, and Bramcote and Highgate lost their railway.

The location of the Bramcote subdivision (DP1145) shown on a modern map. SIX maps.

This page is part of the collection of Newcastle’s Obsolete Place Names.